More Mythology Theories

Posted by Exerda on 19.01.01 00:00

Jordan has said in the past that he deliberately made Rand like the Norse god Tyr. What exactly does this mean for Rand and everyone else? Common knowledge is that Rand will lose a hand; Tyr's was bitten off by the wolf Fenrir when the gods tricked the beast, and Min's visions and Egwene's dreams both back this up. But what else is known about Tyr?

In the time of Ragnarok (Tarmon Gai'don for Rand and company), he fights and defeats the hound of hell, Garm, but is himself mortally wounded. Before his encounter with Mordeth, Fain was "the Dark One's hound," and something of him still is. Rand certainly will fight him again at some point and do so to the death of at least one of them. Garm is also sometimes equated with Fenrir, so there's a possibility of Fain being tied in to Rand losing a hand as well.

Of course, Rand's previous encounter with Fain nearly killed him; the dagger wound would have been fatal to just about everyone else and could have been the "mortal wound" Tyr received fighting Garm. But I had to mention this one, because it's just weird enough to be something down the road.

Also, although it's debatable that Rand will actually die at Tarmon Gai'don (the way Rand himself seems so sure of it makes me suspicious), I think he'll be Healed by the Aes Sedai (probably Nynaeve) afterwards. Remember the three women over his funeral bier in Min's viewing? In Arthurian legends, Arthur, after being mortally wounded in his "last battle" (Tarmon Gai'don for Rand) is sent on his bier to Avalon. Now here's the interesting point: some versions, rather than treating this as Arthur's death, claim he went there to be healed. Accompanying him in some versions are Morgase's daughter Elaine (see any parallels here?), along with two other women. Tar Valon, whose name may be derived from Avalon, is surrounded by water... And Nynaeve I suspect will become the greatest healer ever and perhaps even learn something very close to resurrection; she's always saying, "Anything short of death should be able to be Healed..." Parts of this could apply to Artur Hawkwing as well; he did after all turn down Aes Sedai Healing while on his deathbed.

wotmania says: More Norse theories with every update - what could be more exciting? It is common knowledge that Rand will lose a hand? Admittedly, it is late when I am working on this, but that does not ring a bell with me... Anyway, I like a lot of the parallels you bring up - both Norse and Arthurian. Someday, many years from now, I look forward to seeing the end of this series. Then we will all get to come back and see what everyone had to say in the middle of the series. Should be fun, without a doubt!


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Posted by Walruss on 10.09.01 09:10
I like all this Norse mythology stuff.
( I'M FROM NORWAY I'M FROM NORWAY I'M FROM NORWAY I'M FROM NORWAY I'M FROM NORWAY I'M FROM NORWAY I'M FROM NORWAY!!!!!)




But the dogs you say they fed you to
Lay their muzzles in your lap
And the lions that they led you to
Lie down and take a nap

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So do I.

Posted by Lord_Foul on 11.01.02 09:47
And I like other myths and legends.

I'M FROM EARTH, I'M FROM EARTH, I'M FROM EARTH.

although I'm not too sure about the rest of the human race.



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One day I'll spend more than 2 minutes on a post

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Posted by The Dark Harbinger on 14.05.03 00:16
the bit about Tyr losing his hand to Fenrir could have to do something with Perrin attacking Rand later; there is the risk of going to deep into the Wolfdream, like that guy with yellow eyes that Perrin let go