Maybe Not...

Posted by Mike Gaidin on 21.01.01 00:00

I'm not really sure if this is a theory or not, but I will write this anyway. I have heard just about all the arguments about the Oath Rod and the ageless look that the Aes Sedai have. From what I've read everybody seems to be equally divided on the topic. I myself used to believe that the look was caused by the Oath Rod, but now I don't believe that at all and here's why. I was reading The Fires of Heaven and while reading the prologue on p. 18 of the paperback it states one of Elaida's thoughts. The paragraph goes like this:

A few women shook their heads - there was no news, and Javindhra said, "A Red sister is in place in the Royal Palace. Newly raised, so she can easily pass for other than Aes Sedai." She meant that the woman had not yet taken on the agelessness that came with long use of the Power.
Now this statement, in my opinion, tells exactly where the ageless look comes from. It clearly states that the look comes from use of the power, not the Oath Rod.

wotmania says: This could be taken as proof that it is really channeling which causes the ageless look. Or it could just be another case of Aes Sedai misunderstanding the Oath Rod... Obviously Aes Sedai do not suspect the Oath Rod shortens their lives, and I think that is a pretty solid fact at this point. Also, keep in mind that at this point the Aes Sedai have no real contact with Wise Ones or Windfinders (who channel a lot, but do not have the same ageless look as the Aes Sedai).


Comments

RE: Maybe Not...

Posted by proxima on 28.01.02 15:36
I don't understand that. This quote clearly states that it is the raising to full Aes Sedai that makes them look ageless. If it had been the channeling, the critical time would have been the time the yong Aes Sedai stared training as a novice. This means it is something within the test for full Aes Sedai that creates the ageless look.

We don't know much about that ceremony/test, except that they swear oath on the oath rod, and that there is some kind of channeling test. This gives us two candidates for the ageless look. The oath rod, which is supported by some other clues, or someting else that happens during the ceremony. This could explain the claim that the AS of the AoL also had the ageless look: The current AS have kept some part of the original ceremonies!

Proxima

re: maybe not...

Posted by nigelgoboom on 02.03.02 10:34
it's a little bit of both i think... there's the agelessness that ppl observe that comes from extended use of the power when they normally would have grown old... and then there's the effect that folks in randland are equating with agelessness thats actually the result of the "extra" agelessness that comes from the oath rod...

for those of you who haven't read the WoT guide it states that semirhage turned to the dark because she was busted for being the sadistic bitch that she is and the only choice she was left with was being bound away from "her only true pleasure" and that she couldn't deal with the visible stigma of her punishment...

also in another book, one of the forsaken, im fairly sure it was semirhage when she was interrogating cabriana mercandes, that she mused in her pov that she couldn't understand why today's AS would allow themselves to be marked in such a way...

the oath rod was punishment in the AoL... very serious punishment, since not only does it decrease lifespan of a channeler but it was also the only way to control channelers in the terms of assuring that they were not breaking whatever law they kept breaking...

after the breaking the AS that came together to build the tower took the three oaths as a result of the utter cluster-f**k that came from AS turning against each other in the war of power... 1) it was the deceit between AS that led to such a destructive conflict, "no more lying" 2) big weapons that didn't require a channeler was a big problem "no more weapons made with power" 3) and of course we can't have channeler's runnin around attacking each other "no more killin unless in defense"...

these AS accepted the reduced longevity and the "mark" of the oath rod as a self-imposed punishment in order to reduce the possibility of another breaking... afterall these women had just personally witnessed the near destruction off the entire human race because of a relatively small group of power seekers bent on domination...