Last Battle Outcome...

Posted by Barid Bel Medar on 21.01.01 00:00

Okay, first of all I finally have a theory with something to back it up (yay!) in Lord of Chaos (Chapter 14, p. 353) a novice by the name of Nicola is taken by the Foretelling during her first linking. This is what she says...

"the lion sword, the dedicated spear, she who sees beyond. three in the boat and he who is dead yet lives. the great battle done, but the world not done with battle. the land divided by the return and the guardians balance the servants. the future teeters on the edge of a blade."
This is of course how I interpret it...Also, I believe that Gaidal Cain is Rand’s son. In The Fires of Heaven (Chapter 54, p. 908) they are speaking of Aviendha finding a way to control Rand. They tell her that she has been unsuccessful, yet Amys says she has been more successful than they realize. She also says that she wondered why Aviendha hasn’t told them yet; Amys was about to tell them that Aviendha was pregnant, but she saw Rand near by and shut up. I think that since this is about the time when Birgitte says she can’t find Gaidal, this is what happened..

wotmania says: I certainly agree with the first part of the theory. As for the second part... I think Amys just means Aviendha was successful in sleeping with Rand. When Birgitte said she had not seen Gaidal in a while, she said he would be either an infant or a small boy - she never said he may not have been born yet.


Comments

Seriously

Posted by Metallica-man2 on 04.11.01 22:46
Seriously..come on. Get your act together. Gaidal is born somewhere, and is not avhienda's unborn baby. I doubt that she is pregnant. It's been like 5 months since she slept with rand. If she was pregnant someone would notice. Also...not only are there about 700 ashaman(or were a little while back), but the average ashaman is at least 4 times as strong as the average aes'sedai. Also, aes'sedai means servants of all, not just servants.
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I agree with part

Posted by Crazy ol Lews Therin on 29.04.02 11:17
All up to Aviendha being pregnant. But as far as the guardians balancing the servants, I believe it means tha Asha'man and Aes Sedai as well.



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Alternate sword,spear but obviously min

Posted by Macha on 11.12.02 09:26
Okay i agree with you about the Elayne, Min and Aviendha thing but there are other possibilities. she who sees beyond is obviously min(though it could be someone with the Foretelling)but the others are not so certain. The lion sword has to have something to do with Andor, the white lion being their symbol but it could be Gawain just as easily as Elayne, after all he is the First Prince of the "sword". The dedicated spear suggests an Aiel of some form but think about it. the aiel means spear or something like that, but the Jenn Aiel means "dedicated" spear. Yes I know they're all dead but the Tinkers are kind of the Jenn Aiel, in which case it's Aram, Perrin's pet wolfhound.

one thing

Posted by heron-wielder on 18.01.03 21:50
i think that 'he who is dead yet lives' is talking about Mat. remember rhuidean?

Three in a Boat

Posted by Mazor Karan on 26.08.04 09:41
In one of the FAQ's, Jordan says that you can look at the wheel in two ways. This could mean that Lews Therin could look back at the past and see Rand there, but Rand could look back at the past and see Lews Therin there. It could be that the voice in LT's head is Rand.

1st Age --2nd Age -- AOL (3rd Age)-- 4th Age -- 5th Age-etc

and then all the way back to the begining. This would mean Rand would see LT as his past.

AOL (3rd Age)-- 2nd Age-- 1st Age-- 7th Age..etc..4th Age--

this would mean that if LT looked far enough back in history, he would find Rand al'Thor in the Age before his wich we think of as the 4th Age

Three in a Boat

Posted by Mazor Karan on 26.08.04 09:42
In one of the FAQ's, Jordan says that you can look at the wheel in two ways. This could mean that Lews Therin could look back at the past and see Rand there, but Rand could look back at the past and see Lews Therin there. It could be that the voice in LT's head is Rand.

1st Age --2nd Age -- AOL (3rd Age)-- 4th Age -- 5th Age-etc

and then all the way back to the begining. This would mean Rand would see LT as his past.

AOL (3rd Age)-- 2nd Age-- 1st Age-- 7th Age..etc..4th Age--

this would mean that if LT looked far enough back in history, he would find Rand al'Thor in the Age before his wich we think of as the 4th Age

eh?

Posted by the speedbart on 08.12.04 14:14
where did it say ashaman were 4 times as strong as aes sedai.. i really dont think it did. the difference in power strength is significat enough to get mentioned but id say its more like aes sedai power rating of 1 with ashaman comining in at 1.25-1.5 naturaly i come in at power 1 recurring (aka infinite unlimited power)


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